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How to manage immigration, otherwise it will be an invasion. The professor speaks. Sapelli

How to manage immigration, otherwise it will be an invasion. The professor speaks. Sapelli

“Immigration must be governed, blocking it is impossible. We need to invest in training and structures in Africa and bring to us the personnel that industries and services need. The bourgeoisie and businesses must wake up, not just the states." Italia Oggi's interview with Giulio Sapelli, historian and economist

«Immigration must be governed, blocking it is impossible. We need to invest in training and structures in Africa and bring to us the personnel that industries and services need. Let the bourgeoisies, businesses, not just individual states wake up", says Giulio Sapelli, historian and economist, "the silence of the trade unions is also deafening, as they only know how to advocate rights for everyone but do not lead a true innovation process". And in the meantime, regarding the landing emergency , «we must get two things into our heads. The first: the other European countries don't want immigrants, they will never fit with a different distribution, we have to keep them. The second: the results of a good immigration policy will be seen in decades." So: “In the next twenty years, half of the planet's population growth will be concentrated in Africa, in 2050 there will be three times as many Africans as Europeans. How do we strap ourselves? Before they come to us, we must choose who to let come. The problem is not welcoming, as some say, but planning immigration."

What results does Giorgia Meloni bring home from New York?

In the meantime, he has demonstrated that he has intelligently prepared Italy's presence, making use of competent people like Stefania Craxi and relying on excellent diplomacy. This is already a business card that is good for the country. I would say, however, that the most politically relevant data is constituted not so much by his having underlined his support for Ukraine, which was quite obvious, but by the meetings he had with the leaders of some sub-Saharan African countries such as Rwanda and Malawi. Not only has he thus legitimately posed the problem of immigration, but he has also begun to follow the right path to govern the phenomenon.

Which Road?

That of economic partnership agreements, we must focus on sub-Saharan African states. It is the real turning point for the development of those areas and for the intelligent management of migrants on the old continent. The example is that of the agreement signed by the Germans with Kenya to give a job placement in Germany to young Kenyans trained in their country of origin based on the needs of German companies. The phenomenon of economic immigration cannot be entrusted to the free market, it must also be managed using collateral organizations that operate in the area.

And the coastal countries?

For goodness sake, they are another Africa, the majority are Arab Africa, and they were the Arabs and practiced slavery, Islamic. Which is different from countries like Kenya, Senegal, Niger and Congo which, due to the dominations they have had, have a different drive towards civilization beyond the internal wars resulting from the ancient clash between France and England. With these countries it is possible to establish partnerships between the European bourgeoisie and the local bourgeoisie to satisfy their respective interests.

Is it the Mattei plan for Africa?

I hope so, if it is inspired by Mattei, it can only aim for African capitalist development. After all, it is the only way to return to having a role on the international stage. In Africa we have had the collapse of France's presence, now China, starting from the Horn of Africa and thanks to the support of Russia, is trying to take advantage of it. European states can once again play a role on the black continent. Let the bourgeoisie, businesses, not just individual states wake up. I also find the silence of the unions deafening, as they only know how to advocate for rights for all but are not the leaders of a true innovation process.

What about civil and political rights in African countries?

Stop, thinking of finding agreements only with other democracies means staying out of touch with the world. What is needed to make profitable agreements is for there to be social order, we cannot expect there to be democracy as we understand it. Realism is needed.

Agreements to do what?

We need to invest in training and structures in Africa and bring to us the personnel that industries and services need. Those who emigrate for economic reasons are representatives of a small bourgeoisie in their countries, it seems absurd but it's like that, able to pay for the journey with the smugglers to get to us. They must be placed in a training and entry channel. It's the only thing that can work, the rest is talk.

Meanwhile, however, the emergency is breaking out in Italy.

We need to get two things into our heads. The first: the other European countries don't want immigrants, they will never fit with a different distribution, we have to keep them, at most they will put in a few more resources. The second: the results of a good immigration policy will be seen in decades. Blocks are useless, do you know what numbers we're talking about?

(Excerpt from an interview published on Italia Oggi)


This is a machine translation from Italian language of a post published on Start Magazine at the URL https://www.startmag.it/mondo/gestione-immigrazione-africa-giulio-sapelli/ on Sun, 01 Oct 2023 05:34:29 +0000.